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7 MR. CORRELL: Yes, Your Honor.
8 Could you go up to that blue chair, and the
9 court will swear you in.
10 LISA BRADFORD,
11 called as a witness on behalf of the defendant, being
12 first duly sworn by the court, was examined and testified
13 as follows:
14 COURT: Mr. Correll?
15 MR. CORRELL: Thank you, Your Honor.
16 DIRECT EXAMINATION
17 BY MR. CORRELL:
18 Q. Will you state your name, please.
19 A. Lisa Bradford.
20 Q. And would you indicate what your address is.
21 A. 515 Cornwall Avenue, Waterloo.
22 Q. And would you indicate if William is your
24 A. Yes, he is.
25 Q. Are you employed?
1 A. Yes, I am. Part-time.
2 Q. And where are you employed?
3 A. GMAC Mortgage.
4 Q. Ask you if you know either Delonna or Tracy
6 A. Yes. I know both of them.
7 Q. And which one of those people did you first
9 A. Delonna.
10 Q. And did you meet her husband, Tracy, after
11 coming to know Delonna?
12 A. Yes, I did.
13 Q. Have you known them since they've been
14 married over the last, I guess, approximately seven
16 A. Yes, I have.
17 Q. Did you ever have an occasion to have a phone
18 conversation with Delonna on Friday, October 4, about
19 going -- meeting them at Brooster's?
20 A. Yes, I did.
21 Q. And would you tell us how that -- who
22 initiated that conversation, how it came about?
23 A. I had just called her to speak with her, as
24 we usually do, and just told her that we would be going
25 out that evening, if they cared to meet up with us, we
1 would be up at Brooster's.
2 Q. Okay. And about what time would you
3 anticipate it was that you would have called her?
4 A. I would say early afternoon.
5 Q. And did you call her at her home?
6 A. Yes, I did.
7 Q. Did she -- did you indicate to her about what
8 time it would be that you would anticipate you would get
10 A. Yeah. We said somewhere around between 7 and
11 7:30 because our babysitter came at 7.
12 Q. And was it firm that she was going to meet
13 you there, or was it just left open?
14 A. It was just left open.
15 Q. Did you know the Youngs?
16 A. Yes, we --
17 Q. And did you know the Brauns?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. When you arrived, approximately what time
20 would you estimate it was that you would have arrived?
21 A. Somewhere between quarter after 7 and 7:30.
22 Q. And were the Youngs already there when you
23 got there?
24 A. Yes, they were.
25 Q. And -- did you go sit with them once you got
2 A. Yes, we did.
3 Q. Who would have been the next couple that
4 would have come?
5 A. Delonna and Tracy arrived after that.
6 Q. Do you know approximately what time it would
7 have been that they would have arrived?
8 A. Close to 8 o'clock.
9 Q. And did they also join your group after they
11 A. Yes, they did.
12 Q. Did Scott and Tracey Braun then arrive after
13 the Rokeses, and, if so, about what time would you
14 estimate they arrived?
15 A. Somewhere between 8 and 8:30. I'm not for
16 sure, because we were talking with other people.
17 Q. During the time that -- or after the Brauns
18 got there, did the women basically stay in one group and
19 the men stay in another group?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Did you have any conversation with Delonna
22 Rokes while you were on the Brooster's side?
23 A. Yes, we did.
24 Q. Did you ever have any reason to believe that
25 she was upset about anything while you were on the
1 Brooster's side?
2 A. Yes, she was upset.
3 Q. And how do you know that?
4 A. We were talking, and she got emotional and at
5 one point started to sob a little bit.
6 Q. And what was she upset about, if you know?
7 A. Her mother was ill with a heart condition.
8 Q. Okay. And did she indicate if she had been
9 in the hospital or was in the hospital, if you know?
10 A. Yes, she was.
11 Q. What did you try to do, if anything, in
12 response to that?
13 A. We just tried to talk it out, you know, just
14 kind of let her have a shoulder to cry on.
15 Q. While you were there, did you, on the
16 Brooster's side, did you have any conversation with Tracy
18 A. No.
19 Q. When -- what caused you to go over to the
20 Celebrations side from the Brooster's?
21 A. There was a band playing.
22 Q. And when you went over there, did you -- did
23 you go as part of that group that went over there?
24 A. Yes, I did.
25 Q. Once you got over to the Celebrations side,
1 did you dance?
2 A. No.
3 Q. Did you have any conversation with Tracy
4 Rokes on the Celebrations side?
5 A. Yes, I did.
6 Q. And do you recall, what was the nature of the
7 conversation that you had with him?
8 A. No. It was just casual chitchat.
9 Q. Was there any -- when you had your
10 conversation with him, was there ever any indication of
11 him slurring his words in any way?
12 A. No.
13 Q. Was there ever any indication of him saying
14 things that were inappropriate or anything such as that?
15 A. Not at all.
16 Q. Was there anything that you observed, whether
17 it's an observation, anything he said, that caused you
18 for an instant to think that he was in any fashion
19 intoxicated or under the influence of alcohol?
20 A. No.
21 Q. When you were over on the Celebrations side,
22 was there ever any occasion where you had additional
23 conversations with Delonna about her mother?
24 A. No.
25 Q. When you left, approximately what time would
1 it have been that you left?
2 A. It was a little before 10 o'clock.
3 Q. And what time did your babysitter have to be
5 A. 10:30.
6 Q. Okay. And did you get home shortly before
7 the news was over?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. Okay. Did you give a statement to the Cedar
10 Falls Police Department when they asked you to do so?
11 A. Yes, I did.
12 MR. CORRELL: That's all the questions I
14 COURT: Mr. Wadding?
15 MR. WADDING: Thank you.
17 BY MR. WADDING:
18 Q. Has the defendant ever said anything
19 inappropriate to you?
20 A. Never.
21 Q. The -- certainly he didn't that night?
22 A. No.
23 Q. And isn't it true that you reported to the
24 Cedar Falls Police Department that the defendant is kind
25 of a quiet individual?
1 A. Uh-huh.
2 Q. You usually don't have much to say to him --
3 A. Right.
4 Q. -- is that correct?
5 A. That's correct.
6 Q. Is that how you would characterize your
7 relationship with him too, that you don't talk to him
9 A. Well, just con -- casual conversation.
10 Q. You also indicated to the Cedar Falls Police
11 Department that you saw him drinking that night, but you
12 weren't really sure how much he had to drink?
13 A. That's correct.
14 Q. And did -- do you believe you've ever seen
15 the defendant intoxicated?
16 A. Yes, I have.
17 Q. And do you think that you've ever seen
18 Delonna Rokes intoxicated?
19 A. Yes, I have.
20 Q. Did you have an opinion about whether or not
21 Delonna Rokes was intoxicated on October 4th at
23 A. No, I don't.
24 Q. You didn't have an opinion?
25 A. No.
1 Q. So you don't know one way or the other
2 whether Delonna Rokes was intoxicated or not?
3 A. No. I just knew she was upset that night.
4 Q. Did you form an opinion about whether or not
5 the defendant was intoxicated?
6 A. No.
7 Q. And that certainly wasn't the point of going
8 out, was it?
9 A. No. It was just a very social, casual
11 Q. And that isn't what you're thinking when
12 you're speaking with the defendant either; is that
14 A. I'm sorry?
15 Q. I mean, you're not looking for signs of
16 intoxication on the defendant when you're talking to him,
17 are you?
18 A. No.
19 Q. I mean, it's a friendly gathering, right?
20 A. Right.
21 Q. And it's only after you hear about the
22 accident and the death of Juli Farrell that you start
23 thinking about those things; is that fair to say?
24 A. Correct.
25 Q. You also indicated that when -- you weren't
1 sure when the Rokeses arrived; is that correct?
2 A. Just somewhere between 8 and 8:30.
3 Q. Okay. That was because you were talking to
4 other people?
5 A. Right.
6 Q. And did you know other people at the -- or
7 the tavern, I don't know, bar?
8 A. Yes. Yes, I did.
9 Q. Other than the people that you were with?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. And did you talk and -- talk with those
12 people as well throughout the night?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. Was that true of your husband as well? Did
15 he know other people besides the group that you were
17 A. I'm sure he did. I'm not sure who he talked
18 to, because it was mostly the girls together and the guys
19 were together.
20 Q. Okay. Thanks.
21 MR. WADDING: I don't have anything else.
22 COURT: Mr. Correll?
1 REDIRECT EXAMINATION
2 BY MR. CORRELL:
3 Q. Mrs. Bradford, is there any doubt in your
4 mind that Tracy Rokes was not under the influence or not
5 intoxicated on October 4th?
6 A. No, he was not.
7 Q. Okay. That's all. Thank you.
8 COURT: Mr. Wadding, anything further?
10 BY MR. WADDING:
11 Q. So you did form an opinion about whether he
12 was intoxicated?
13 A. I thought you said Delonna. You were talking
14 about --
15 Q. I believe I asked you about the defendant as
16 well, and you said you hadn't formed an opinion?
17 A. Well, I just -- just -- no.
18 Q. You do have an opinion about that?
19 A. I just felt that he was hisself.
20 MR. WADDING: I don't have anything further.
21 COURT: Mr. Correll?
22 MR. CORRELL: Nothing further.
23 COURT: Thank you.
24 MR. CORRELL: Your Honor, at this time we
25 would ask to have the matter recessed until tomorrow
2 COURT: All right. Will we be ready to go by
3 9 o'clock?
4 MR. CORRELL: Yes, sir.
5 COURT: We'll reconvene at 9 o'clock.
6 (At which time a recess was taken at
7 4:02 p.m., May 20, 1997.)